Sentencing Transcript in U.S. v. Madoff

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4                       v.                          09 CR 213 (DC)


5            BERNARD L. MADOFF,


6                          Defendant.


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9                                                    New York, N.Y.

9                                                    June 29, 2009

10                                                  10:00 a.m.




12          Before:


13                                 HON. DENNY CHIN,


14                                                  District Judge



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(In open court)

(Case called)

THE COURT: Please be seated. Good morning. Mr. Madoff, would you please stand.

Mr. Madoff, you pled guilty on March 12th, 2009 to 11 counts of securities fraud, investment advisor fraud, wire and mail fraud, money laundering, making false statements, perjury, filing false documents with the SEC and theft from employee benefit funds You are here this morning to be sentenced for those crimes.

Have you reviewed the presentence report?

THE DEFENDANT: Yes, I have, your Honor.

THE COURT: Did you discuss it with your lawyers?


THE COURT: Mr. Sorkin, have you reviewed the presentence report and discussed it with your client?

  1. SORKIN: Yes, your Honor, we have.

THE COURT: Do you or your client have any objections to the factual recitations or the guidelines calculation?

  1. SORKIN: We do not, your Honor.

THE COURT: Thank you. You can be seated.

Ms. Baroni, does the government have any objections to the presentence report?

  1. BARONI: No, your Honor.

THE COURT: Thank you.



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1              I accept and adopt the factual recitations set forth

2     in the presentence report. I accept and adopt the guidelines

3     calculation set forth in the presentence report with one

4     clarification which I will discuss in a moment.

5              The total offense level is 52, the criminal history

6     category is I. The PSR concludes that the guideline range is

7     life imprisonment. That is not quite accurate, however,

8     because the guidelines range cannot be life imprisonment as no

9     count carries the possibility of a life sentence. Rather the

10  most serious counts carry a maximum of 20 years' imprisonment.

11           I look then to Section 5G1.2(d) of the guidelines,

12  which tells us that where there are multiple counts, and the

13  guideline range exceeds the statutory maximum for the most

14  serious count, the court must impose consecutive terms of

15  imprisonment to the extent necessary to achieve the total

16  punishment.

17           There is a little bit of ambiguity, however, as to

18  what is meant by "total punishment" where the guideline

19  calculation calls for life imprisonment, but Second Circuit

20  case law makes clear that in such a situation, the district

21  court is to stack or add up the maximum sentences for all the

22  counts.

23           In United States v. Evans, for example, 352 F.3d 65,

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1     guideline range is 240 years, the maximum sentences for all the

2     counts added together.

3              Accordingly, here the guideline range is not life

4     imprisonment, but 150 years, the maximum sentences for each of

5     the 11 counts added together. Of course, in light of Booker

6     and the case law that followed, the guideline range is advisory

7     only. While I must give the guideline range fair and

8     respectful consideration, I am not bound by it. In fact, the

9     Probation Department recommends a sentence of 50 years.

10  Instead I must make an individualized assessment based on all

11  the facts and circumstances, including the factors set forth in

12  the statute. In the end, I must impose a sentence that is

13  reasonable.

14           We will proceed as follows:

15           First we will hear from the victims. Then Mr. Sorkin

16  will speak on behalf of Mr. Madoff. Next Mr. Madoff may speak

17  if he wishes. Finally, I will hear from the government.

18           First the victims. I have received several hundred

19  written statements from victims including the e-mails and

20  letters submitted back in March. Every victim who made a timed

21  request to speak will be permitted to speak today except in two

22  instances. Two members of the same family asked to speak, and

23  we will permit one person to speak on behalf of the family.

24  Two victims have now withdrawn their request. Accordingly, we

25  will hear from 9 victims today.



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1             First we will hear from Mr. and Mrs. Ambrosino. The

2     Ambrosinos can step up to the microphone. Go ahead.

3     Mr. Ambrosino, go ahead. Come up to the microphone so everyone

4     can hear you.

5             MR. AMBROSINO: Thank you, your Honor. My name is

6     Dominic Ambrosino and my -­7         THE COURT: Sir, just keep your voice up.

8             MR. AMBROSINO: I thank the court for allowing me to

9     speak today. As a retired New York City Correction Officer, I

10   am very familiar with the inside of a courtroom. However, I

11   never in my wildest dreams ever expected to be sitting in one

12   as a victim of an indescribably heinous crime -­13            THE COURT: Mr. Ambrosino, slow down a touch so our

14   Court Reporter can transcribe what you're saying.

15           MR. AMBROSINO: That dream came true on March 12th as

16   I watched Bernie Madoff stand and be cuffed. However, the

17   dream really started as a nightmare on December 11th. I can

18   remember the exact second my wife told me the news. I

19   immediately knew all the ramifications, but I don't think she

20   did. The fallout from having your entire life savings drop

21   right out from under your nose is truly like nothing you can

22   ever describe. At first it was the obvious, and how will we

23   pay our bills? How can someone do this to us?

24           We worked honestly and we worked so hard. This can't

25   be real. We did nothing wrong.



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1              I don't know if anyone other than another victim can

2     explain what the less obvious effects are, how every decision

3     directly and indirectly hinged on the fact that we had the

4     security of our savings. When I was able to leave the job, we

5     bought a motor home to travel the country. We took out a

6     mortgage since it was better to keep our savings in Madoff. We

7     sold the house my wife lived in for 27 years and also put all

8     those profits -- and they were high -- into our Madoff account.

9     We trusted that the savings and planning would see us through

10  our retirement.

11           We had ideas of traveling the country. It all stopped

12  abruptly on December 11th. As a result, we are left with no

13  permanent house, a depreciating motor home, we are upside down

14  on the loan and an income from my pension that is our life.

15  This pension used to be perceived as spending money before

16  December 11th, and now although it doesn't cover our monthly

17  expenses, we rely on it fully. It is all we have.

18           I sustained a 52 percent hearing loss on my job, and

19  at 49 years' old I can't go back to my previous career so I

20  have taken on a job this summer in Arizona as an construction

21  project coordinator. The job will only last until August.

22  Then I don't know what I am going to do.

23           My wife's foot was run over by a van while in New York

24  City. There was a plea hearing in March. She had a job lined

25  up before the trip. The expenses of the trip were given to us



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1     and we had to let it go since she was in a cast for eight

2     weeks. She is now rehabilitating and still feels pain when she

3     stands for long periods of time.

4              With that background as to who I am, I would like to

5     share some of the specific problems Madoffs crime brought to

6     us. My pension distribution, a one-time decision, and our

7     health insurance plan, also one-time decision, were based on

8     the fact that we had savings and security with Madoff. If I

9     should die, my wife is left without my income or health

10  insurance.

11            We sold our home in New York with the expectation that

12  someday we would have the finances to purchase another one. We

13  have no credit now and can't get a mortgage. We have been

14  forced to take care of people's homes while they are traveling

15  for the summer, as we used to do prior to December 11th.

16            We have through the generosity of friends been able to

17  stay rent free on the RV lots of people in the community. This

18  will come to a screeching halt in October when the owners

19  return for the winter season. We don't know where we'll go at

20  that time. We don't have enough income from my pension to pay

21  monthly rent.

22            The most devastating to us is we lost our freedom. We

23  lost the ability to share our life every day as we explore the

24  country every day. We lost the time to hold hands as we

25  walked. As they say in the commercial, this is priceless.












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In closing, I would like to say, Judge Chin, sentencing Bernard L. Madoff to the fullest extent will certainly not eliminate any of the issues I wrote about. It probably won't even gain me satisfaction. As the guard who used to be on the right side of the prison bars, I'll know what Mr. Madoffs experience will be and will know that he is in prison in much the same way he imprisoned us as well as others.

He took from us the freedom that we held so preciously close to our lives, the very thing I always valued and never took for granted. In a sense, I would like someone in the court today to tell me how long is my sentence.

Thank you very much.

THE COURT: Thank you. Next we'll hear from Mr. and Mrs. FitzMaurice.

  1. EBEL: No, Judge Chin. I am next.

THE COURT: I saw the gentleman standing up next and I thought you were Maureen Ebel.

  1. EBEL: Yes, I am. I am here with may brother, William Thomas McDonough.

THE COURT: All right.

  1. EBEL: My name is Maureen Ebel and I am a victim of Bernard L. Madoff.

I      have lost all of my life's hard-earned savings. I have lost my life savings because our government has failed me and thousands and thousands of other citizens. There are many SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, PC.


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1     levels of government complicity in this crime. The Securities

2     & Exchange Commission, by its total incompetence and criminal

3     negligence, has allowed a psychopath to steal from me and steal

4     from the world.

5              I am a 61-year-old widow and I am now working full

6     time. I have done many things to survive since December 11th,

7     including selling a lot of my possessions and working three

8     jobs at the same time. I have lost a home that my husband and

9     I had owned for 25 years because of this theft.

10            I have lost my ability to care for myself in my old

11  age. I have lost the ability to donate to charity, especially

12  the Leukemia & Lymphoma Society. I have lost my ability to

13  donate my time working for that charity as I had done in the

14  past because now I must work full time in order to eat.

15            I have lost the ability to help future generations of

16  my family get an education. I have lost the ability to help

17  them with their housing needs. It pains my so much to remember

18  my husband getting up in the middle of the night. He was a

19  very fine physician. He would get up in the middle of the

20  night year after year in all kinds of weather to go to the

21  hospital to save someone's life in rain, ice and snow.

22            He would save someone's life so that Bernie Madoff

23  could buy his wife another party rock. I have lost the ability

24  to move around the world freely at this stage in my life using

25  the money my husband and I have worked so hard to earn. We had



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1     worked, saved and planned for our old age so that we could

2     leave something behind and not be a burden when we became sick

3     and old.

4              The emotional toll that this has taken on me has been

5     devastating. I have had great pain and suffering at the hands

6     of Bernie Madoff. My health deteriorated rapidly after

7     December 11th. I could not eat or sleep. I was very agitated

8     and hyperactive. I had all the signs and symptoms of someone

9     undergoing great stress. I suffered rapid weight loss, rapid

10  heart rate, sweating, insomnia and sometimes spells.

11            I had the horrible feeling that I had been pushed into

12  the great black abyss, but I could not indulge these paralyzing

13  feelings too long. I had work to do. While experiencing all

14  these symptoms, I had to sell my home of 25 years, sell may

15  car, sell may possessions and go to work full time. I accepted

16  gifts of money from family and friends to pay for heat,

17  electricity, gasoline and food.

18            I was the recipient of so many kindnesses and saw so

19  much goodness in people. Goodness in people is something that

20  you, Mr. Madoff, have been blind to your whole life, and that

21  goodness is better than all the yachts and all the French homes

22  in all the world put together.

23            Sadly, Mr. Madoff not only defrauded thousands of

24  investors, he mastered the art of manipulating our government.

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1     tools. They were willing to relax all regulations that would

2     have uncovered his fraud. The justification for relaxing the

3     regulations was to ease the burden on Wall Street firms, the

4     very firm that bankrupted the world economy.

5              THE COURT: Ms. Ebel, this is not the time to

6     criticize the agencies. That is not before me. What is before

7     me is what sentence to impose, so if you would address that,

8     please.

9              MS. EBEL: I will, Judge Chin.

10           Mr. Madoff, I have read you will be making a statement

11  about your guilt and shame. I do not believe you. Judge Chin,

12  Mr. Madoff should stay in jail until every person who enabled

13  him to cause such a massive devastation is brought to justice.

14  He should stay in jail until the families of every one of his

15  victims are able to restore their financial stability. That

16  could easily take 150 years. Thank you.

17           THE COURT: Thank you. Next we'll hear from Mr. and

18  Mrs. FitzMaurice.

19           MR. FITZMAURICE: Thank you, Judge Chin, for allowing

20  us to be heard in your courtroom today.

21           My wife and I here are today representing the

22  thousands of Madoff victims. We have all suffered extensively

23  as a result of his actions. It has been well chronicled that

24  Madoff did not limit his treachery to a few. He stole from the

25  rich, he stole from the poor and he stole from the in-between.



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1     He had no boundaries. He stole from individuals as well as

2     charitable organizations of all types and denominations.

3              My wife and I are not millionaires. He has taken our

4     entire life savings. We have not been overlooked just as many

5     of his other victims. We have worked hard, long and hard for

6     all of our lives to provide for our family and to be in a

7     position to retire someday. I am now forced to work three

8     jobs. My wife is working a full-time job only to make ends

9     meet, to allow us to pay our mortgage and put food on the

10  table.

11           We are 63 years' old. It will be no retirement for us

12  in the next two or three years. There will be no trips to

13  California to visit our one-year-old grandson. There will be

14  no vacations of any type. Again we are too old to recoup the

15  monies that he has taken from us. We can only work as long as

16  our health will hold up and then we will have to sell our home

17  and hope to survive on social security alone.

18           Madoff has shown no remorse. Please do not confuse

19  his prepared statement as remorse. His crime was premeditated

20  and calculated. He was attempting to scam investors only days

21  before his arrest. If he had the opportunity, he would still

22  be stealing from innocent investors. He has not truly

23  cooperated with the authorities to recover the money that

24  rightfully belongs to his investors, whom we are now known as

25  victims.



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1              He cheated his victims out of their money so that he

2     and his wife Ruth and their two sons could live a life of

3     luxury beyond belief. This life is normally reserved for

4     royalty, not for common thieves.

5              Your Honor, we implore you to give him the maximum

6     sentence at a maximum prison for this evil lowlife. This would

7     be true justice. Minimum security prison would only allow

8     Madoff too many freedoms that he does not deserve. He would be

9     leading a life better than a lot of his victims. That is not

10  true justice. His was a violent crime without the use of a

11  tangible weapon.

12           His attorney will argue for a lenient sentence of up

13  to twelve years. That is both insulting and another example of

14 Madoffs arrogance. The scope of the devastation he has

15  wreaked is unparalleled. It is impossible to compare his crime

16  to any past criminal act. The pain he has inflicted will

17  continue for many years. My life will never be the same. I am

18  financially ruined and will worry every day about how I will

19  take care of my wife.

20           Where will we be able to live? How will we pay our

21  bills? How will we get medical insurance?

22           All of his victims worldwide will be waiting to see

23  that true justice is served. True justice is a maximum

24  sentence in a maximum security prison. I have a quotation from

25  my wife, since only one of us could speak. She wants to say:



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1              "I cry every day when I see the look of pain and

2     despair in my husband's eyes. I cry for the life we once had

3     before that monster took it away. Our two sons and

4     daughter-in-law have rallied with constant love and support.

5     You, on the other hand, Mr. Madoff, have two sons that despise

6     you. Your wife, rightfully so, has been vilified and shunned

7     by her friends in the community. You have left your children a

8     legacy of shame. I have a marriage made in heaven. You have a

9     marriage made in hell, and that is where you, Mr. Madoff, are

10  going to return. May God spare you no mercy."

11           THE COURT: Thank you.

12           Next we will hear from Carla Hirschhorn.

13           MS. HIRSCHHORN: Good morning and thank you, your

14  Honor, for allowing me to address you.

15           My husband and I write to you to explain the

16  devastation caused by Bernard L. Madoff to our lives. Since

17  1992 we were invested with Bernard L. Madoff Investment

18  Securities. We have never been rich people. We have worked

19  throughout all our adult lives. Over the years my husband has

20  worked hard to learn a trade as a glazer which afforded him the

21  opportunity to start a small business. I have been a physical

22  therapist and worked through to the day I was graduated from

23  college in 1980. We have both diligently saved our hard-earned

24  money to invest with Bernard Madoff over the years. We used

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1     savings in Bernard Madoff Securities.

2              On December 11th, 2008, our world crumbled beneath us

3     as news of the Bernard Madoff ponzi scheme became public. This

4     turn of events has been devastating to our family. We lost our

5     entire life savings. This money was being used to provide our

6     children with a college education they have worked so hard to

7     deserve and to provide us with savings for a secure retirement.

8              Since December 11th, 2008 life has been a living hell.

9     It feels like a nightmare that we can't wake from. I am so

10  thankful that my father died two years ago and was spared from

11  having to live in his terminal condition without the money to

12  provide him 24/7 health care which allowed him to die with

13  indignity.

14           My father died and left my mother believing she would

15  be able to live a safe and secure life with the money in her

16  Bernard Madoff accounts. Now all she has to live on is a

17  sparce social security check and a small pension which will

18  last less than one year. She may not have enough money to

19  maintain her home and living expenses.

20           It is our hope and in our prayers she does not become

21  ill and require extraordinary means to sustain her. Our

22  daughter who sits in this courtroom today to witness this

23  horrific event is a junior at college and has worked two jobs

24  since our Madoff accounts were stolen while going to school

25  full time. The stress and worry about her family's financial



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1     situation and health of her parents has been devastating to

2     her. We have no idea how we will continue to pay for college

3     without it being a terrible financial burden and worry on all

4     of us.

5              Immediately after hearing the news of the ponzi

6     scheme, we filed papers for financial aid to sustain our

7     daughter through college. We were informed we were not

8     eligible for any grant money, that our only hope would be to

9     take out loans. However, in this financial environment,

10  without SIPIC insurance and with concern about claw-back

11  litigation, we can't possibly take loans out to send our

12  daughter to college. The turmoil caused by our financial

13  devastation has caused us serious physical and emotional

14  problems from which we need medical treatment.

15           Your Honor, please understand that we, the investors,

16  have been punished by Madoffs crime. We were devastated by

17  the SEC's failure to uncover Madoffs fraud and its continued

18  stamp of approval behind Madoff over the decades of his crime.

19  We have been abandoned by our elected officials which refuse to

20  require the SEC to find income. We have been betrayed by

21  SIPIC, which in order to save money, has invented a new

22  definition of net equity to deprive us of the $500,000 of

23  insurance of which we were assured.

24           Please, your Honor, do not fail us. Please assure

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1     is required to serve his sentence in a maximum security prison.

2     This is not a man who deserves a federal country club.

3             Respectfully, Carla Hirschhorn.

4             THE COURT: Thank you.

5             It is not up to me, by the way, where Mr. Madoff will

6     be designated. A number of people have made that suggestion,

7     but it is up to the Bureau of Prisons.

8             Next we'll hear from Sharon Lissauer.

9             MS. LISSAUER: My name is Sharon Lissauer. Thank you,

10   your Honor, for letting me speak. I am very emotional, so

11   please bear with me if I break down into tears. As everyone

12   knows, this nightmare has begun six and a half months ago and

13   yet it seems like a lifetime.

14           I keep on thinking I am going to wake up from it. It

15   keeps on getting worse. My life and my future have been

16   ruined. I was always so careful with my money, but I entrusted

17   everything I had to Mr. Madoff, my whole life savings from

18   modeling and the inheritance of my mom. She just died last

19   year, and as soon as I got the money, because I just miss her

20   and I trusted Mr. Madoff so much, I gave it all to him, but now

21   I don't have my mom or the money.

22           I know I am not alone. I know he has ruined thousands

23   of people's lives. In the March hearing he said that he was

24   truly sorry, which I don't really believe, but even if it is a

25   little bit true, then I am not asking him, I am begging him, if



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1     he has any money from the offshore accounts or his family has

2     any money obtained from this horrible fraud, that they disgorge

3     it and give it back to the victims so they can have a little

4     bit of their lives back.

5              With respect to his sentencing, I used to think that

6     it didn't matter if he got 150 years, what would that do for

7     the victims? It wouldn't get their money back. But now upon

8     reflection, I think he should spend his whole life in jail

9     because what he has done is just despicable. He has ruined so

10  many people's lives. He killed my spirit and shattered my

11  dreams. He destroyed my trust in people. He destroyed my

12  life, and I have no other assets. I make very little money

13  from modeling and he left me in a very difficult position to

14  pay my bills and support myself. For the first time in my life

15  I am very, very frightened of my future.

16           Thank you, your Honor.

17           THE COURT: Thank you.

18           Next we'll hear from Burt Ross. Mr. Ross.

19           MR. ROSS: Your Honor, my name is Burt Ross and my

20  wife Joan and I lost $5 million because of the criminal acts of

21  Bernard Madoff. Not only have I lost the inheritance of my

22  father who worked his entire life, not only have I lost the

23  inheritance of my father who worked for his entire life so that

24  his children and his children's children can leave a better

25  life, I have lost our retirement accounts and funds in trust



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1     for our children.

2              The fact is though we are one of the fortunate ones

3     because we still have a roof over our heads, food on our table,

4     unlike so many others who have been forced to sell their homes,

5     who have been forced to sell their homes and pick up the pieces

6     of their lives.

7              Years ago I attended a Friends secondary school where

8     we thought that in each person there was an inner light, that

9     of God and everyone. For the life of me, as far as I have

10  searched, I cannot find that inner light in Bernard Madoff.

11           What can we possibly say about Madoff, that he was a

12  philanthropist, when the money he gave to charities he stole

13  from the very same charities he ultimately devastated; that he

14  was a good family man when he leaves his grandchildren a name

15  that mortifies them, a name which will live in infamy; that he

16  is genuinely remorseful for his conduct when the statement he

17  read in this very court was totally without emotion, when even

18  after confessing he fought to keep assets away from those he

19  hurt, when we all know his only regret was getting caught.

20           Can we say Madoff was a righteous Jew who served on

21  the boards of Jewish institutions when he sank so low, when he

22  sank so low as to steal from Elie Weisel, as if Weisel hasn't

23  already suffered enough in his lifetime.

24           A righteous Jew, when in reality nobody has done more

25  to reinforce the ugly stereotype that all we care about is



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1     money the fact is there are no people on this earth more

2     charitable? But we will survive. We have survived worse than

3     Madoff.

4              What Bernard L. Madoff did far transcends the loss of

5     money. It involves his betrayal of the virtues people hold

6     dearest -- love, friendship, trust -- and all so he can eat at

7     the finest restaurants, stay at the most luxurious resorts, and

8     travel on yachts and private jets. He has truly earned his

9     reputation for being the most despised person to be in America

10  today.

11           Several hundred years ago the Italian poet Dante in

12  his "The Divine Comedy" recognized fraud as the worst of sins,

13  the ultimate evil more than any other act contrary to God's

14  greatest gift to mankind -- love. In fact, he placed the

15  perpetrators of fraud in the lowest depths of hell, even below

16  those who had committed violent acts. And those who betrayed

17  their benefactors were the worst sinners of all, so in the

18  three mouths of Satan struggle Judas for betraying Jesus

19  Christ, and Brutus and Cassius for betraying Julius Caesar.

20           Please Allow me to take a liberty now by speaking for

21  many of those victims who because of frailty, privacy,

22  distance, or other reasons are unable to bear witness today.

23  We urge your Honor to commit Madoff to prison for the remainder

24  of his natural life, and when he leaves this earth virtually

25  unmourned, may Satan grow a forth mouth where Bernard L. Madoff



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1     deserves to spend the rest of eternity.

2             Thank you.

3             THE COURT: Thank you. Next we'll hear from Michael

4     Schwartz.

5             MR. SCHWARTZ: Can everyone hear me?

6             My name is Michael Schwartz. I am 33 yearS' old. It

7     was my family's trust fund that helped fund the money for

8     Bernard Madoffs organization. Since I was a teenager, I

9     invested into what I thought was a forthright and legitimate

10   investment firm. During this time I made sure I lived well

11   within my means, nothing extravagant. I viewed my investment

12   as a safety net in case I should hit hard times or perhaps face

13   medical issues.

14           Unfortunately, several months ago, my job was

15   regionalized, eliminated. I was handed a letter of

16   recommendation and sent on my way. It didn't hit me until I

17   got home that the company that you ran had already taken my

18   life savings. At 33, I was wiped out.

19           I am one of the lucky ones by far. I have my health.

20   I am young, I have great friends, got a loving wife.

21   Unfortunately, the money you took from other members of my

22   family wasn't a minor setback. It was quite a bit more. Your

23   Honor, part of the trust fund wasn't set aside for a house in

24   the Hamptons, a large yacht or box seat to the Mets. No, part

25   of that money was set aside to take care of my twin brother who


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1     is mentally disabled, who at 33, he lives at home with my

2     parents and will need care and supervision for the rest of his

3     life.

4              In the final analysis, my family wants to remember

5     that in addition to stealing from retirees, veterans, widows,

6     Bernard Madoff stole from the disabled. Every time he cashed a

7     check and paid for his family's decadent lifestyle, he killed

8     dreams. My parents had a simple dream for my brother, a week

9     at summer camp, someday being able to live in a good, a good

10  group home. Thanks to Bernard Madoffs greed, complete lack of

11  ethics, that dream will be delayed.

12            At the end of the day my twin brother will be taken

13  care of. My family is strong enough to weather this storm but,

14  your Honor, I say this without any malice, Bernard Madoff

15  should no longer be allowed back in society. I only hope that

16  his prison sentence is long enough so that his jail cell

17  becomes his coffin. Thank you.

18            THE COURT: Thank you.

19            We'll hear next from Miriam Siegman.

20            MS. SIEGMAN: I was born a few blocks from this

21  courthouse. I still live here. On a cold winter's day just

22  before my 65th birthday, the man sitting in front of me

23  announced to the world that he had stolen everything I had.

24  After that he refused to say another word to his victims. I am

25  here today to bear witness for myself and others, silent



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1     victims.

2              The streets of my childhood felt safe. The streets I

3     wander now feel threatening. The man sitting in this courtroom

4     robbed me. In an instant his words and deeds beat me to near

5     senselessness. He discarded me like road kill. Victims became

6     the byproduct of his greed. We are what is left over, the

7     remnants of stunning indifference and that of politicians and

8     bureaucrats.

9              Six months have passed. I manage on food stamps. At

10  the end of the month I sometimes scavage in dumpsters. I

11  cannot afford new eyeglasses. I long to go to a concert, but I

12  never do. Sometimes my heartbeats erratically for lack of

13  medication when I cannot pay for it.

14            I shine my shoes each night, afraid they will wear

15  out. My laundry is done by hand in the kitchen sink. I have

16  collected empty cans and dragged them to redemption centers.

17            I do this. People ask how are you? My answer always

18  is I'm fine, but it is not always true. I have lived with

19  fear. It strikes me at all hours. I calculate again and again

20  how long I can hold out.

21            It is only a matter of time. I will be unable to meet

22  my own basic needs, food, shelter, medicine. I feel grief at

23  no longer being able to help support my beloved sister. I feel

24  shame and humiliation asking for help.

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1     human being did this to me and to all victims, but I don't know

2     why. What I do understand frightens me. The man who did this

3     had deep contempt for his victims.

4              There are many victims including those we never hear

5     from or see; union members, pipe-fitters, laborers, women who

6     work in nursing homes, bricklayers, firemen, working people.

7     One victim shot himself. The inquest informs us he was a

8     highly decorated former soldier who could not face the shame of

9     his ruin, his last words on a humanitarian mission in

10  Afghanistan. By self-admission, this thief among us knew his

11  victims were facing a kind of death at his hands, yet he

12  continued to play with us as a cat would with a mouse.

13            What shall be the punishment for such a man? What

14  sentence? Carry the burden we carry, feel his shame,

15  humiliation and isolation as I do. Feel it each day wherever

16  you are until life ends.

17            Face an acknowledge the murderous effects of your

18  life's work. I long for the truth that might become of a trial

19  and hope justice had placed a higher premium on truth and

20  expediency. Forgiveness for now, it will have to come from

21  someone other than me.

22            THE COURT: Thank you. Finally we'll hear from Sheryl

23  Weinstein.

24            MS. WEINSTEIN: Hello, your Honor.

25            THE COURT: Good morning.


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1             MS. WEINSTEIN: I was introduced to Bernard Madoff 21

2     years ago at a business meeting. At the time I was the chief

3     financial officer of Hadassah, a charitable women's

4     organization. I now view that day as perhaps the unluckiest

5     day of my life because of the many events set into motion that

6     would eventually have the most profound and devastating effect

7     on me, my husband, my child, my parents, my in-laws and all

8     those who depended upon us for their liveliness.

9             You have read and you appear from many of us, the old,

10  the young, the healthy and infirm about the unimaginable extent

11  of human tragedy and devastation. According to a Time Magazine

12  article, there are over 3 million individuals worldwide who

13  have been directly or indirectly affected. They, the press and

14  the media, speak of us as being greedy and rich. Most of us

15  are just ordinary working people, worker bees, as I like to

16  refer to us.

17           My husband and I are now both in our 60's and have

18  been married for 37 years. We have saved for most of our lives

19  by living beneath our means in order to provide for our

20  retirement. This past Thursday at 2:00 o'clock my husband and

21  I sold our home of 20 years. People are always asking how much

22  did we lose? My reply is that when you lose everything, it

23  really doesn't matter because you have nothing left, and we

24  have lost everything.

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1     to be able to sell in this depressed market although at a

2     greatly reduced amount. We had to sell because four years ago

3     we refinanced our mortgage and gave the excess cash to Bernie

4     Madoff. There was very little left over after all was said and

5     done at the closing.

6              It is difficult to describe how it feels due to

7     circumstances outside of your control to be virtually forced

8     out of your home, to leave unwillingly. Last Tuesday I walked

9     out following the movers with a thought I would be back before

10  the closing, but knowing in the back of my mind that I

11  wouldn't.

12           My husband was the last to be in our home. He shared

13  with me his hesitation of not wanting to leave, of wanting to

14  remain, but realizing that staying was no longer an option. We

15  chose not to go to the closing because it would have been too

16  difficult and painful for either of us to be there. For months

17  after December 11th I would wake in the dark hours of the night

18  and early morning and to my horror realize that there were no

19  calming, soothing words I could say to myself because it wasn't

20  a dream. The monster who visited me was true, a reality.

21  Those same thoughts would occur to me upon waking in the

22  morning and during the day and a deep, heavy depression would

23  surround me and not lift.

24           This went one for many months. I went on after bad

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1     making me feel sick, unable to escape the reality of my

2     personal devastation. At times I could not even bear to be

3     alone. I would ask my friends to either stay with me at the

4     office even if there was very little work to do. It would

5     prompt me to pick up the phone to call my husband to be

6     reassured I was not alone.

7              This continued until March 12th when Madoff entered

8     his plea of guilty. I began to speak out to the media, and the

9     helpless and hopeless feelings began to retreat and I began to

10  feel empowered. It came together for me while being

11  interviewed by Katie Couric. She asked me wasn't I embarrassed

12  being a CPA losing all my money? At that moment I realized and

13  responded no, I am not embarrassed because I did not lose my

14  money. My money was stolen from me.

15           Ms. Couric said to me you sound angry, and I said yes,

16  you're right. When someone steals from you, you get angry.

17  That was the beginning of my healing process.

18           I felt it was important for somebody who as personally

19  acquainted with Madoff to speak. My family and I are not

20  anonymous people to him. He knows my husband's name is Rob and

21  my son's name is Eric. In fact, Eric worked for him one summer

22  while in college many years ago. Eric would continue to call

23  him over the years to ask for his advice and input. Eric

24  entrusted him with his money that he worked and saved. a few

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1     thanked him for doing such a good job.

2              I would now like to have the opportunity to share with

3     you my personal feelings about Madoff and to speak to his

4     sentencing.

5              I remember when my son was perhaps a few weeks' old

6     and I would watch him as he slept and he would whimper, not a

7     cry of hunger, but a whimper. Even at a few weeks' old there

8     was something in his subconscious that could frighten him. It

9     amazed me such a young child, an infant can have nightmares.

10           All of us from our earliest ages remember those times

11  when the terror, the monsters and goblins would come visit us

12  in those dark hours. Eventually we would be so frightened that

13  we would awake sometimes calling out to our parents because of

14  the fear.

15           It was calming to have our parents remind us it was

16  only a dream. As we got older, we could wake ourselves and

17  self-assure ourselves it was only a dream. That terror, that

18  monster, that horror, that beast has a name to me, and it is

19  Bernard L. Madoff. I will now attempt to explain to you the

20  nature of this beast who I called Madoff.

21           He walks among us. He dresses like us. He drives and

22  eats and drinks and speaks. Under the facade there is truly a

23  beast. He is a beast that has stolen for his own needs the

24  livelihoods, savings, lives, hopes and dreams and futures of

25  others in total disregard. He has fed upon us to satisfy his



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1     own needs. No matter how much he takes and from whom he takes,

2     he is never satisfied. He is an equal opportunity destroyer.

3             I felt it important for you to know in appearance, he

4     would be just like everybody else and it is for this reason I

5     am asking your Honor to keep him in a cage behind bars because

6     he has lost the privilege of walking and being among us mortal

7     human beings. He should not be given the opportunity to walk

8     into our society again.

9             I would like to suggest that while any man, woman or

10  child that has been affected by his heinous crime still walks

11  this earth, Madoff the beast should not be free to walk among

12  them. You should protect society from the likes of him. I

13  have reread Madoff's March 12th statement to you. Certain

14  quotes jumped out at me. His continuing self-serving

15  references, and I quote, that his proprietary trading in the

16  market making business managed by his brother and two sons was

17  legitimate, profitable and successful in all respects, or that

18  he felt, "compelled to satisfy my clients' expectations at any

19  cost."

20           It sounds as if he is laying the blame on his clients'

21  expectations and never admitting the truth he was stealing from

22  these clients and the lives he ruined. If he was attempting to

23  protect his family, he should not be given that opportunity

24  because we, the victims, did not have the same opportunity to

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to protect our loved ones away from us. He should have no opportunity to protect his family.

We, the victims, are greatly disappointed by those agencies that were set up to protect us. SIPIC has now redefined what we are entitled to. The IRS approved their office request to be a custodian of our IRAs and pension funds and the SEC appears to have looked the other way on numerous occasions. This is a human tragedy of historic proportions and we ask -- no, we implore -- that those whose agencies may have failed us in the past through acts of omissions, step up to the plate, fulfill their responsibilities. I thank your Honor for your indulgence and I feel comfortable you will make sure justice is served.

Thank you.

THE COURT: Thank you.

Thanks to all the victims who spoke today and to all those who wrote. I appreciate hearing your views.

Mr. Sorkin.

  1. SORKIN: Good morning, your Honor.

THE COURT: Good morning.

  1. SORKIN: Before I speak, would your Honor respectfully acknowledge you have received both the government's sentencing memorandum and two responses?

THE COURT: Yes, I have your initial letter I received yesterday and your reply brief. I have the government's SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, PC.


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1     memorandum as well.

2             MR.   SORKIN:      Thank you.

3            THE    COURT:       I have read them all.

4             MR.   SORKIN:                   Thank you,    your Honor.

5            May   I proceed?

6            THE    COURT:       Yes.

7              MR. SORKIN: Your Honor, I know I speak on behalf of

8     all Mr. Madoff's counsel as well as Mr. Madoff who will speak.

9     We cannot be unmoved by what we heard. There is no way that we

10   cannot be insensitive to the victims' suffering.

11            This is a tragedy as some of the victims have said at

12   every level. There is no doubt Mr. Madoff will speak. We

13   represent a deeply flawed individual, but we represent, your

14   Honor, a human being. We don't represent a statistic. We

15   don't represent a number. We speak to the victims. We have

16   heard what they've had to say and we can only imagine, your

17   Honor, what we would have heard from others.

18            I say again, forgive me for being redundant, we

19   represent a very flawed individual, an individual who appears

20   before this court facing a sentence that is sufficient but not

21   unreasonably necessary to carry out the mandate that this court

22   has to carry out.

23            The magnificence of our legal system, your Honor, is

24   that we do not seek an eye for an eye. To be sure, if it is

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1     diligently with the U.S. Attorney's Office in an atmosphere of

2     trying to recover assets. To that extent, your Honor, we have

3     provided the government with what we believe to be the assets

4     that Mr. Madoff has gathered over the years which the victims

5     have referred to, and again if it is any consolation to them,

6     to the extent that the government has left him and his family,

7     his wife impoverished, we are just about there with respect to

8     everything the government believes it can show in order to

9     obtain the appropriate assets for forfeiture.

10            Vengeance is not the goal of punishment. Our system

11  of justice, your Honor, has recognized that justice is and must

12  always be blind and fair -- not blind to the criminal acts that

13  Mr. Madoff pleaded guilty to and certainly not blind to the

14  suffering of the victims, but blind to the extent that it will

15  achieve a sentence that has been set out over the years in the

16  guidelines and the cases interpreting the guidelines, and the

17  guidelines and the courts and the statutes, your Honor, do not

18  speak of vengeance and revenge.

19            There is something bordering on the absurd, and we

20  cited United States versus Ellison on this point, your Honor.

21  For the government to ask for 150 years so that Mr. Madoff gets

22  out of jail at the age of 221 because he is 71 now, he will

23  face supervised release. By the same token, your Honor, it

24  defies reason for the Probation Department to suggest that he

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1             I point out to the court, and forgive me, your Honor,

2     for repeating what is in the letter we sent you most recently,

3     that Mr. Madoff, as he pleaded to, as appears in the

4     presentence report and appears in the information in which the

5     government agrees, for most of the period of time that Mr.

6     Madoff is alleged to have engaged in this ponzi scheme and, in

7     fact, it was a ponzi scheme, it was money in and money out.

8             Most of the money, and I am quoting from the PSR, went

9     for redemptions. People who invested money were given back

10  money. To be sure, it was a fraud. To be sure, it was a ponzi

11  scheme. To be sure, it was a crime, but nevertheless, your

12  Honor, I point out, and in response respectfully to some of the

13  victims, the PSR noted, and I think it is common knowledge in

14  the industry that Mr. Madoff built up this firm on the

15  proprietary trading side to the point in 1991, as the

16  presentence report points out, the proprietary trading side

17  which at the point of his arrest had approximately 200

18  employees separate and apart from the fraudulent advisory

19  business, a hundred traders making markets and in 1991, your

20  Honor, accounted for almost 10 percent of all transactions on

21  the New Y ork Stock Exchange.

22           Sufficient to provide revenue at the same time Mr.

23  Madoff engaged in taking money in and taking money out, most of

24  that money went for redemptions. As we point out in our letter

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1    the loans, the comingling, and we we do dispute this with the

2    government, but I don't think it is a relevant issue, the

3    comingling, the loans.

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1             MR. SORKIN: The loans, the commingling, commenced

2     within the last eight to ten years. And as Mr. Madoff will

3     say, things began to collapse. And there was commingling with

4     $250 million over the last eight or so years, of advisory

5     money, as well as money in, money out of investments.

6             I think it's important to note, your Honor, again that

7     Mr. Madoff stepped forward. He chose not to flee. He chose

8     not to hide money. To the extent money is overseas, we are

9     still actively engaged -- we, his defense counsel -- in

10  assisting the government, at the request of the government, to

11  obtain assets located overseas, as we speak, and we submitted

12  that voluntarily, and we have been trying to help, with

13  Mr. Madoff's authorization, permission, and blessing.

14           Mr. Madoff is 71 years old, your Honor. Based upon

15  his health, which is in the PSR, his family history, his life

16  expectancy, that is why we ask for a sentence of 12 years, just

17  short, based upon the statistics that we have, of a life

18  sentence.

19           We also said, if your Honor is inclined, your Honor

20  obviously makes the decision, 15 to 20 years. So that if

21  Mr. Madoff ever sees the light of day, in his 90s, impoverished

22  and alone, he will have paid a terrible price. He expects,

23  your Honor, to live out his years in prison.

24           The PSR points out, your Honor, as we noted in our

25  letter to you, that the loss in this case is $13,226,000,000.




1     The exact numbers are in the PSR. What has not been heard

2     publicly, your Honor, is the fact that over $1,276,000,000 is

3     held by the SIPC trustee, and we have no control over how that

4     money is disbursed. And I say this for the victims we have

5     heard. Again, we have no control over what the SIPC trustee

6     does with the money that he obtains, nor do we have any control

7     over what the SEC will do, nor do we have any control as to how

8     the government to whom we have forfeited all of the assets but

9     a few, which the government and we have agreed were weighed

10  against the risk of litigation, we have no control how that

11  money is disbursed.

12            Additionally to the $1,276,000,000, the SIPC trustee,

13  according to the PSR, has recovered $1,225,000,000, has sent

14  demand letters to individuals for 735 million, and has

15  commenced litigation to seek a clawback from some very large

16  funds to obtain redemptions and interest payments in the amount

17  of $10,100,000,000. It is our hope, your Honor, our sincerest

18  hope, that all that money is collected, in an amount in excess

19  of $13,226,000,000, that that will be provided to investors.

20            The frenzy, the media excitement, that Mr. Madoff

21  engaged in a Ponzi scheme involving $65 billion and that he has

22  ferreted money away, as far as we know, your Honor, that is

23  simply not true, and it is not borne out either by the

24  government or by the PSR, and we take no issue with the PSR.

25            In closing, your Honor, there is no question that this




1     case has taken an enormous toll, not only on Mr. Madoff and his

2     family, but to the victims to be sure. But it has also taken a

3     toll, your Honor, as Mr. Madoff will say, on the industry that

4     he helped revolutionize, that he helped grow, and now has

5     become the object of disrespect and abomination, and that is a

6     tragedy as well.

7              We ask only, your Honor, that Mr. Madoff be given

8     understanding and fairness, within the parameters of our legal

9     system, and that the sentence that he be given be sufficient,

10  but not greater than necessary, to carry out what this Court

11  must carry out under the rules, statutes and guidelines.

12            Thank you, your Honor.

13            THE COURT: Thank you.

14            Mr. Madoff, if you would like to speak, now is the

15  time.

16            THE DEFENDANT: Your Honor, I cannot offer you an

17  excuse for my behavior. How do you excuse betraying thousands

18  of investors who entrusted me with their life savings? How do

19  you excuse deceiving 200 employees who have spent most of their

20  working life working for me? How do you excuse lying to your

21  brother and two sons who spent their whole adult life helping

22  to build a successful and respectful business? How do you

23  excuse lying and deceiving a wife who stood by you for 50

24  years, and still stands by you? And how do you excuse

25  deceiving an industry that you spent a better part of your life




1     trying to improve? There is no excuse for that, and I don't

2     ask any forgiveness.

3              Although I may not have intended any harm, I did a

4     great deal of harm. I believed when I started this problem,

5     this crime, that it would be something I would be able to work

6     my way out of, but that became impossible. As hard as I tried,

7     the deeper I dug myself into a hole. I made a terrible

8     mistake, but it wasn't the kind of mistake that I had made time

9     and time again, which is a trading mistake. In my business,

10  when you make a trading error, you're expected to make a

11  trading error, it's accepted. My error was much more serious.

12  I made an error of judgment. I refused to accept the fact,

13  could not accept the fact, that for once in my life I failed.

14  I couldn't admit that failure and that was a tragic mistake.

15           I am responsible for a great deal of suffering and

16  pain. I understand that. I live in a tormented state now

17  knowing of all the pain and suffering that I have created. I

18  have left a legacy of shame, as some of my victims have pointed

19  out, to my family and my grandchildren. That's something I

20  will live with for the rest of my life.

21           People have accused me of being silent and not being

22  sympathetic. That is not true. They have accused my wife of

23  being silent and not being sympathetic. Nothing could be

24  further from the truth. She cries herself to sleep every night

25  knowing of all the pain and suffering I have caused, and I am




1     tormented by that as well. She was advised to not speak

2     publicly until after my sentencing by our attorneys, and she

3     complied with that. Today she will make a statement about how

4 she feels about my crimes. I ask you to listen to that. She

5 is sincere and all I ask you is to listen to her.

6              Apologizing and saying I am sorry, that's not enough.

7     Nothing I can say will correct the things that I have done. I

8     feel terrible that an industry I spent my life trying to

9     improve is being criticized terribly now, that regulators who I

10  helped work with over the years are being criticized by what I

11  have done. That is a horrible guilt to live with. There is

12  nothing I can do that will make anyone feel better for the pain

13  and suffering I caused them, but I will live with this pain,

14  with this torment for the rest of my life.

15            I apologize to my victims. I will turn and face you.

16  I am sorry. I know that doesn't help you.

17            Your Honor, thank you for listening to me.

18            THE COURT: Thank you.

19            Mr. Sorkin, did I understand Mr. Madoff to say that

20  Mrs. Madoff wanted to speak?

21            MR. SORKIN: No, your Honor. Mrs. Madoff after the

22  sentencing will be giving a statement. And I add what

23  Mr. Madoff said about belaboring it, that she was advised by

24  counsel to wait till after sentence.

25            THE COURT: I thought he was saying she wanted to




1     speak. Thank you.

2             I will hear from the government.

3             MS. BARONI: This defendant carried out a fraud of

4     unprecedented proportion over the course of more than a

5     generation. For more than 20 years he stole ruthlessly and

6     without remorse. Thousands of people placed their trust in him

7     and he lied repeatedly to all of them. And as the Court heard

8     from all of the victims, in their words and in the letters, he

9     destroyed a lifetime of hard work of thousands of victims. And

10  he used that victims' money to enrich himself and his family,

11  with an opulent lifestyle, homes around the world, yachts,

12  private jets, and tens of millions of dollars of loans to his

13  family, loans of investors' money that has never been repaid.

14           The guideline sentence in this case, as your Honor

15  knows, is 150 years and the government respectfully submits

16  that a sentence of 150 years or a substantial term of

17  imprisonment that will ensure that he spends the rest of his

18  life in jail is appropriate in this case.

19           This was not a crime born of any financial distress or

20  market pressures. It was a calculated, well orchestrated,

21  long-term fraud, that this defendant carried out month after

22  month, year after year, decade after decade. He created

23  literally hundreds and hundreds of thousands of fake documents

24  every year. Every time he told his clients that he was making

25  trades for them he sent them trade confirmations filled with




1     lies. At every month end he sent them account statements that

2     were nothing but lies. And the defendant knew that his clients

3     made critically important life decisions, as your Honor heard

4     today, based on these lies. Decisions about their children's

5     education, their retirement, how to care for elderly relatives,

6     and how to provide for their families. He knew this, and he

7     stole from them anyway.

8              In doing so, he drove charities, companies, pension

9     plans and families to economic ruin. And even on the most

10  dispassionate view of the evidence, the scale of the fraud,

11  which is at a conservative estimate, your Honor, $13 billion,

12  when you look at the duration of the fraud, which is more than

13  20 years, when you look at the fact that the defendant could

14  have stopped this fraud and saved the victims' losses, all of

15  these facts justify a guideline sentence of 150 years.

16           And to address briefly some of Mr. Sorkin's arguments,

17  despite Mr. Sorkin's arguments, the defendant here deserves no

18  leniency and certainly does not deserve a sentence of 12 years'

19  imprisonment.

20           Mr. Sorkin tries to argue that the loss amount is

21  actually going to be less than 13 billion because the trustee

22  may recover some assets in clawback proceedings. As your Honor

23  knows, that has nothing to do with the loss amount in this

24  case. Further, the defendant shouldn't get any credit for

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96T8MAD2 recover money.

In asking for 12 years, your Honor, the defendant is asking you to impose a sentence that a defendant would receive in a garden variety fraud case in this district, a case with about $20 million of losses and far fewer victims. In imposing a 12 year sentence in this case, on the facts and circumstances here, would be profoundly unfair. Not only would it not reflect the seriousness and the scope of the defendant's crimes, but, also, it would not promote the goals of general deterrence going forward.

Mr. Sorkin's argument that the defendant should get some credit for coming forward and turning himself in is also entirely meritless. The defendant continued his fraud scheme until the very end, when he knew the scheme was days away from collapse, when he was almost out of money and when he was faced with redemption requests from clients that he knew he could not meet. And even at that point, rather than turning himself in, he tried to take the last of his victims' money. He prepared $173 million in checks that he planned to give to his family, his friends, and some preferred clients. It was his final effort to put his interests above those of his clients, and had the FBI not arrested him when they did, he might well have succeeded.

Your Honor, in sum, for running an investment advisory business that was a complete fraud, for betraying his clients SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, PC.



1     for decades, and for repeatedly lying to regulators to cover up

2     his fraud, for the staggering harm that he has inflicted on

3     thousands of people, for all of these reasons and all of the

4     reasons your Honor heard so eloquently from the victims, the

5     government respectfully requests that the Court sentence the

6     defendant to 150 years in prison or a substantial term of

7     imprisonment that ensures that he will spend the rest of his

8     life in jail.

9              Thank you.

10            THE COURT: Thank you.

11            I take into account what I have read in the

12  presentence report, the parties' sentencing submissions, and

13  the e-mails and letters from victims. I take into account what

14  I have heard today. I also consider the statutory factors as

15  well as all the facts and circumstances in the case.

16            In his initial letter on behalf of Mr. Madoff, Mr.

17  Sorkin argues that the unified tone of the victims' letters

18  suggests a desire for mob vengeance. He also writes that

19  Mr. Madoff seeks neither mercy nor sympathy, but justice and

20  objectivity.

21            Despite all the emotion in the air, I do not agree

22  with the suggestion that victims and others are seeking mob

23  vengeance. The fact that many have sounded similar themes does

24  not mean that they are acting together as a mob. I do agree

25  that a just and proportionate sentence must be determined,




1     objectively, and without hysteria or undue emotion.

2              Objectively speaking, the fraud here was staggering.

3     It spanned more than 20 years. Mr. Madoff argues in his reply

4     letter that the fraud did not begin until the 1990s. I guess

5     it's more that the commingling did not begin until the 1990s,

6     but it is clear that the fraud began earlier. And even if it

7     is true that it only started in the 1990s, the fraud exceeded

8     ten years, still an extraordinarily long period of time. The

9     fraud reached thousands of victims.

10           As for the amount of the monetary loss, there appears

11  to be some disagreement. Mr. Madoff disputes that the loss

12  amount is $65 billion or even $13 billion. But Mr. Madoff has

13  now acknowledged, however, that some $170 billion flowed into

14  his business as a result of his fraudulent scheme. The

15  presentence report uses a loss amount of $13 billion, but as I

16  understand it, that number does not include the losses from

17  moneys invested through the feeder funds. That's what the PSR

18  states. Mr. Madoff argues that the $13 billion amount should

19  be reduced by the amounts that the SIPC trustee may be able to

20  claw back, but that argument fails. Those clawbacks, if they

21  happened, will result in others who suffered losses. Moreover,

22  Mr. Madoff told his sons that there were $50 billion in losses.

23  In any event, by any of these monetary measures, the fraud here

24  is unprecedented.

25           Moreover, the offense level of 52 is calculated by




1     using a chart for loss amount that only goes up to $400

2     million. By any of these measures, the loss figure here is

3     many times that amount. It's off the chart by many fold.

4              Moreover, as many of the victims have pointed out,

5     this is not just a matter of money. The breach of trust was

6     massive. Investors -- individuals, charities, pension funds,

7     institutional clients -- were repeatedly lied to, as they were

8     told their moneys would be invested in stocks when they were

9     not. Clients were sent these millions of pages of account

10  statements that the government just alluded to confirming

11  trades that were never made, attesting to balances that did not

12  exist. As the victims' letters and e-mails demonstrate, as the

13  statements today demonstrate, investors made important life

14  decisions based on these fictitious account statements -- when

15  to retire, how to care for elderly parents, whether to buy a

16  car or sell a house, how to save for their children's college

17  tuition. Charitable organizations and pension funds made

18  important decisions based on false information about fictitious

19  accounts. Mr. Madoff also repeatedly lied to the SEC and the

20  regulators, in writing and in sworn testimony, by withholding

21  material information, by creating false documents to cover up

22  his scheme.

23           It is true that Mr. Madoff used much of the money to

24  pay back investors who asked along the way to withdraw their

25  accounts. But large sums were also taken by him, for his




1     personal use and the use of his family, friends, and

2     colleagues. The PSR shows, for example, that Mr. Madoff

3     reported adjusted gross income of more than $250 million on his

4     tax returns for the ten year period from 1998 through 2007. On

5     numerous occasions, Mr. Madoff used his firm's bank accounts

6     which contained customer funds to pay for his personal expenses

7     and those of his family, including, for example, the purchase

8     of a Manhattan apartment for a relative, the acquisition of two

9     yachts, and the acquisition of four country club memberships at

10  a cost of $950,000. Billions of dollars more were paid to

11  individuals who generated investments for Mr. Madoff through

12  these feeder funds.

13            Mr. Madoff argues a number of mitigating factors but

14  they are less than compelling. It is true that he essentially

15  turned himself in and confessed to the FBI. But the fact is

16  that with the turn in the economy, he was not able to keep up

17  with the requests of customers to withdraw their funds, and it

18  is apparent that he knew that he was going to be caught soon.

19  It is true that he consented to the entry of a $100 billion

20  forfeiture order and has cooperated in transferring assets to

21  the government for liquidation for the benefit of victims. But

22  all of this was done only after he was arrested, and there is

23  little that he could have done to fight the forfeiture of these

24  assets. Moreover, the SIPC trustee has advised the Court

25  Mr. Madoff has not been helpful, and I simply do not get the




1     sense that Mr. Madoff has done all that he could or told all

2     that he knows.

3              Mrs. Madoff has stipulated to the transfer of some $80

4     dollars in assets to the government for the benefit of victims,

5     but the record also shows that as it became clear that

6     Mr. Madoffs scheme was unraveling, he made substantial loans

7     to family members, he transferred some $15 million of firm

8     funds into his wife's personal accounts, and he wrote out the

9     checks that the government has just described.

10            I have taken into account the sentences imposed in

11  other financial fraud cases in this district. But, frankly,

12  none of these other cases is comparable to this case in terms

13  of the scope, duration and enormity of the fraud, and the

14  degree of the betrayal.

15            In terms of mitigating factors in a white-collar fraud

16  case such as this, I would expect to see letters from family

17  and friends and colleagues. But not a single letter has been

18  submitted attesting to Mr. Madoffs good deeds or good

19  character or civic or charitable activities. The absence of

20  such support is telling.

21            We have heard much about a life expectancy analysis.

22  Based on this analysis, Mr. Madoff has a life expectancy of 13

23  years, and he therefore asks for a sentence of 12 years or

24  alternatively 15 to 20 years. If Mr. Sorkin's life expectancy

25  analysis is correct, any sentence above 20 or 25 years would be




1     largely, if not entirely, symbolic.

2              But the symbolism is important, for at least three

3     reasons. First, retribution. One of the traditional notions

4     of punishment is that an offender should be punished in

5     proportion to his blameworthiness. Here, the message must be

6     sent that Mr. Madoffs crimes were extraordinarily evil, and

7     that this kind of irresponsible manipulation of the system is

8     not merely a bloodless financial crime that takes place just on

9     paper, but that it is instead, as we have heard, one that takes

10  a staggering human toll. The symbolism is important because

11  the message must be sent that in a society governed by the rule

12  of law, Mr. Madoff will get what he deserves, and that he will

13  be punished according to his moral culpability.

14           Second, deterrence. Another important goal of

15  punishment is deterrence, and the symbolism is important here

16  because the strongest possible message must be sent to those

17  who would engage in similar conduct that they will be caught

18  and that they will be punished to the fullest extent of the

19  law.

20           Finally, the symbolism is also important for the

21  victims. The victims include individuals from all walks of

22  life. The victims include charities, both large and small, as

23  well as academic institutions, pension funds, and other

24  entities. Mr. Madoffs very personal betrayal struck at the

25  rich and the not-so-rich, the elderly living on retirement




1     funds and social security, middle class folks trying to put

2     their kids through college, and ordinary people who worked hard

3     to save their money and who thought they were investing it

4     safely, for themselves and their families.

5              I received letters, and we have heard from, for

6     example, a retired forest worker, a corrections officer, an

7     auto mechanic, a physical therapist, a retired New York City

8     school secretary, who is now 86 years old and widowed, who must

9     deal with the loss of her retirement funds. Their money is

10  gone, leaving only a sense of betrayal.

11           I was particularly struck by one story that I read in

12  the letters. A man invested his family's life savings with

13  Mr. Madoff. Tragically, he died of a heart attack just two

14  weeks later. The widow eventually went in to see Mr. Madoff.

15  He put his arm around her, as she describes it, and in a kindly

16  manner told her not to worry, the money is safe with me. And

17  so not only did the widow leave the money with him, she

18  eventually deposited more funds with him, her 401(k), her

19  pension funds. Now, all the money is gone. She will have to

20  sell her home, and she will not be able to keep her promise to

21  help her granddaughter pay for college.

22           A substantial sentence will not give the victims back

23  their retirement funds or the moneys they saved to send their

24  children or grandchildren to college. It will not give them

25  back their financial security or the freedom from financial




1     worry. But more is at stake than money, as we have heard. The

2     victims put their trust in Mr. Madoff. That trust was broken

3     in a way that has left many -- victims as well as others -­4 doubting our financial institutions, our financial system, our

5     government's ability to regulate and protect, and sadly, even

6     themselves.

7              I do not agree that the victims are succumbing to the

8     temptation of mob vengeance. Rather, they are doing what they

9     are supposed to be doing -- placing their trust in our system

10  of justice. A substantial sentence, the knowledge that

11  Mr. Madoff has been punished to the fullest extent of the law,

12  may, in some small measure, help these victims in their healing

13  process.

14            Mr. Madoff, please stand.

15            It is the judgment of this Court that the defendant,

16  Bernard L. Madoff, shall be and hereby is sentenced to a term

17  of imprisonment of 150 years, consisting of 20 years on each of

18  Counts 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 10, 5 years on each of Counts 2, 8,

19  9, and 11, and 10 years on Count 7, all to run consecutively to

20  each other. As a technical matter, the sentence must be

21  expressed on the judgment in months. 150 years is equivalent

22  to 1,800 months.

23            Although it is academic, for technical reasons, I must

24  also impose supervised release. I impose a term of supervised

25  release of 3 years on each count, all to run concurrently. The




1     mandatory, standard, and special conditions are imposed, as set

2     forth on pages 58 and 59 of the PSR.

3              I will not impose a fine, as whatever assets

4     Mr. Madoff has, as to whatever assets may be found, they shall

5     be applied to restitution for the victims.

6              As previously ordered, I will defer the issue of

7     restitution for 90 days.

8              Finally, I will impose the mandatory special

9     assessment of $1,100, $100 for each count.

10           Mr. Sorkin, any requests?

11           MR. SORKIN: Yes, your Honor.

12           As you pointed out to one of the victims, you cannot

13  designate a prison, but we would ask, based upon an analysis

14  that we have done that in 75 percent of the cases

15  recommendations made by the court are followed by the Bureau of

16  Prisons, we respectfully request that your Honor recommend to

17  the Bureau of Prisons that Mr. Madoff be designated to

18  Otisville.

19           THE COURT: I will recommend to the Bureau of Prisons

20  that Mr. Madoff be designated to an appropriate facility in the

21  northeast region of the United States.

22           MR. SORKIN: Thank you.

23           THE COURT: Ms. Baroni?

24           MS. BARONI: Two issues. If you can specifically

25  incorporate by reference the forfeiture order of Friday,




1    pronounce it as part of the sentence.

2             THE COURT: The forfeiture order is hereby

3    incorporated.

4            MS.   BARONI: Special assessment.

5             THE DEFENDANT: I did the special assessment of

6    $1,100.

7            MS.   BARONI: Thank you.

8             THE COURT: Mr. Madoff, please stand one more time.

9             Mr. Madoff, you have the right to appeal at least

10  certain aspects of this judgment and conviction. If you wish

11  to appeal, you must do so within ten days. If            you cannot

12  afford an attorney, the court will appoint one          for you.

13           We are adjourned.

14           (Adjourned)